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Thanks for uploading Image:Ducic.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, BrokenSegue 00:17, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi! Regarding photo that I've uploaded: I'm not familiar with GDFL and that other stuff, but picture is from Serbian Wikipedia, so i guess that it's not copyrighted. Djordjes posted it on Serbian wiki, and here is his User page on Serbian wiki, where you can contact him in English (or tell me what to ask him).

By the way, Jovan Ducic died in 1943, 62 years ago, so copyright of this photo (if any) should have expired long ago --Obradović Goran (talk 00:57, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I was just going to ask you if you could contact Djordjes. You should (does he even speak english) ask him where he got the image from and why he thinks the image is free to use. (If he does speak english I'll talk to him) I found the page where the image is on the Serbian wiki sr:Слика:Ducic.jpg. I can't read the text below the picture but I think that it is just the man's name. Copyrights are based upon the death of the artist <somthing like 70 years too> not the subject so the picture isn't necesarily free to use. Although I have a feeling it is. If Djordjes doesn't respond i'll leave the image with a link to the other wiki. Thanks Again! BrokenSegue 01:09, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
P.S. You don't need to copy your responses to both your talk page and mine.
P.S.S. Read up on your edits, welcome ambassador of Serbia :) BrokenSegue

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I'm no expert on copyright law so I passed this case on to Neutrality hopefully he will have time to solve this in the future. Thanks for translating that text for me. BrokenSegue 00:11, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Embassy

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Hi, thanks for agreeing to be one of the ambassadors. There isn't any formal process to go through -- just add your name to Wikipedia:Local Embassy and meta:Embassy. Angela. 19:39, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

Quote

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Hi, the quote on my user page is, I believe, from Jimbo Wales and it's on the Donations page. See here [1]. Best, SlimVirgin 00:36, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

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...so that now it will point to this page.

I hope you've no objections to my having added myself. Budi siguran da, if something vital comes up (that is, if someone asks an important question), I'll ask you first...Otherwise, please tell me and I'll remove myself. --VKokielov 02:01, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

On the other hand...

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Since it doesn't look like it's so simple - I was just over at sr:Википедија:Амбасада - I'll remove my name.

thank you very very much!!

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hello! very nice to meet you! because i love your motherland, i often feel sorrow that i hadn't learn serbian. your significative moves me very much! thank you very much! you have all my best wishes!!! it's too late in china now! i have to go to sleep, good night (good day in serbia)!*^_^* --icywind 15:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kate's tool

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Hi. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I'd recommend you either get in touch with Kate (sending an email from here might be most effective) or with another m:developer. Hope this helps! Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 20:33, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Serbian cross

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Google search for "srpski krst" in Latin alphabet finds 45 results and in Cyrillic 1180(!?), while for "srpska ocila" in Latin 15 and in Cyrillic one. So I guess it's clear which term is used more oftenly. I'll add more info on firesteels, and you can edit it yourself if you think more should be added - you don't need to ask me for permission :) Nikola 15:55, 2 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pavlov's House

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See commons:Pavlov's House, although i have difficulties linking the russian language images to the english wiki. -- Chris 73 Talk 21:16, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! It's great that we have these pictures. Could they be renamed to the Latin alphabet, if software isn't supporting Cyrillic? -- Obradović Goran (talk 22:32, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
See also Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#foreign language image names. I think I will rename the image on the commons. -- Chris 73 Talk 11:20, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
Changed image names. Also added image of Pavlow to his article. -- Chris 73 Talk 11:38, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Rosa Luxemburg

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Hi Goran, it looks like it was a typo for 1899. I've changed it. Saintswithin July 5, 2005 17:44 (UTC)

Re:Black Sabbath:Paranoid rulz

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Damn straight. If you can ever get a hold of it, listen to Supernaut off of Black Sabbath, Vol. 4. Your talk link was so pretty I had to click it... @_@ *hypnotized* Redwolf24 02:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Please don't reply on my talk page until I archive it. Thanks~

Serbian portal

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As the amount of material somehow connected with Serbs and Serbia on Wikipedia grows, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to form a SCG/Serb portal, so that all the articles about famous Serbs, Serb history, the Serb republic etc are more closely interlinked. This would also provide the casual reader with a easy to use encyclopaedia of everything they could wish to know about RS, SCG, the Serb diaspora etc. Јес' да је Србија мала и да је мало Срба али ипак има Палестински портал, Doctor Who портал, зато нема разлога да и ми ово не покренемо. At this stage I'm just gauging the amount of interest out there for this. If you support тхис идеа, and want to help out, then just drop by my talk page -- estavisti 20:02, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Russian tsarinas

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regarding the names of tsarinas of Russia: if from abroad, they changed their first name, such as Wilhelmina became Natalia Alexeievna, etc. Now, Wikipedia has certain rules that the so-called consort name is not to be used, because of several persons being e.g Empress Maria Fedorovna. And that a pre-marital name should be used. But I feel that it is acceptable to make a formulation "Natalia Alexeievna of Darmstadt" (the "of Darmstadt" being for disambiguation purposes) instead of using "Wilhelmina of Darmstadt". Now, as there are plenty of Germanist and anglicist opinions, I would like to know some of international opinion. In other words, I am asking you to think whether from the perspective of non-Russian Slavonic, (1) would it be acceptable to say "Natalia Alexeievna of Darmstadt" and (2) would that be better or worse than "Wilhelmina of Darmstadt". 62.78.105.68 08:31, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think that "Natalia Alexeievna of Darmstadt" seems fine. Then again, I'm a Slav, and this name is "closer" to me. I'm not really familiar with Russian royal customs, so I can't say this or that is the right thing to do, I only can say that (esthetically) Natalia beats Wilhelmina - Wilhelmina is also OK. I am really sorry that I can't give you some more argumentated assistance :( -- Obradović Goran (talk 00:23, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, this is an ongoing policy discussion, and the anon has not listed all of the options being considered. If you're interested, the discussion is at this talk page. Best, Choess 01:08, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

I read your opinion: "These persons won their right to be in this encyclopedia mostly by being Empresses of Russia, and thus their articles should be named by their post-conversion names. When it comes to voting, I think that the best choice would be 2 or 4. Disambiguating by years seems silly (if I know so much about a person – why looking up at Wikipedia :)" -- and I am thankful to you as now I know a perspective of an outsider Slav.

There is an ongoing vote now also at Talk:Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse where I have been willing to approve the alternatives "Alexandra Fyodorovna of Hesse", "Alexandra Fedorovna of Hesse" and "Alexandra of Hesse", whereas I am against "Alix of Hesse" and "Alix of Hesse and by Rhine". The situation seems rather similar and it seems we are in agreement basically. I think that "Alexandra Fyodorovna of Russia" is an acceptable English translation of a name form which could be in use in books, papers and other literature in some Slavic languages.

In my opinion, none of these alternatives are easy, mostly because those women changed their first names when already adults. We just should find the most elegant solution.

Russian royal customs apparently have almost nothing to do with this, they would have probably wanted to call her as "Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna of Russia", but then there is the disambiguation problem, as there existed also another empress A.F. Arrigo 09:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Мрцина

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Е па стварно,мрцина не да није засрдела,него се није ни оладила а ти си се већ бачио.(Све,све ал` зар не виде да сам планирао још нешто да испишем,но добро ти ће га више пута исписаваш.) --CrniBombarder!!! 06:59, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ма нисам те #%&$"# због тога што си преводио,него што си га превео док још није био готов(а и зато што си ме врашки натрипов`о).Да,прећи ћемо на урођенички,него је ово било чисто међу нама,па зато. --CrniBombarder!!! 19:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jovanvb

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Re: your email.

I've noticed that you have blocked user Jovanvb.

Have I? No such action appears in the blocklog.

I am aware that you block a fair number of users just like this one, but I expect your personal apology to Jovan because of this abominable act!

Do you? That's nice. Evercat 23:27, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you've blocked an actual user or IP number (diference is only semantical, isn't it).

There's a very big difference. If I block an IP address and it affects a legitimate user, it doesn't mean I was targetting that user.

If the username is the only thing that is bothering you, why don't you just block the user, instead of blocking every IP number that chap ever used?

I have just blocked the username. There is however a feature in the software, whereby any IP address a blocked user logs in from is automatically blocked for 24 hours...

You can read here what info I got.

It says:

The reason given is this: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Evercunt". The reason given for Evercunt's block is: "Username".

You see the prefix Auto- meaning automatic.

Your IP address is 82.117.194.66. Please include this address, along with your username, in any queries you make.

Which you didn't do. I have now unblocked 82.117.194.66.

Evercat 10:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image Tagging Image:Grb-novibeograd.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Grb-novibeograd.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, so its copyright status is therefore unclear. Please add a tag to let us know its copyright status. (If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know on the image description page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Otherwise, see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have tagged them, too. Note that any unsourced and untagged imaged will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. --Creidhne 22:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it can go under fair use (but I'm not an expert for those things). -- Obradović Goran (talk 22:52, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IP blocking

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Hi Fvw! I'm experiencing some problems due to the activity of the vandal with the IP number 82.117.194.66, and your efforts to restrain him. I am using the Serbia Broadband ISP's proxy for Internet surfing, which is unfortunately the same IP number our problematic contributor is using. I fully well understand that you're doing what you must, but I would like to inform you that SBB is a big ISP, with a lot of users, and 2 of burrecrats from Serbian Wikipedia are using that very same IP number, and they are affected by blockings.

Angela and other admins on IRC told me that it is very uncommon practise to block IP numbers infinitely. If there is necessity for blocking IP 82.117.194.66, could you please try to keep it as short as possible, in accordance with frequency of vandal's activity, since it affects several contributors. -- Obradović Goran (talk 18:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Heya, sorry for the inconvenience. There is some misconception about this with some of the older wikipedians, but in fact it's policy to block open proxies indefinitely on the english wikipedia.
Anyway, so far for the bad news, now the good news: I can no longer access the proxy at 82.117.194.66, so it would appear the ISP in question got their act together and locked down their proxy. Let's hope it sticks, and happy editing! --fvw* 18:59, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User Categorization

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RS

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Hi. There is a revert war going on Republika Srpska article. Would you please come to Talk:Republika_Srpska#Latest_POV_problems to check the discussion and give your opinion? Nikola 18:02, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please rephrase your comment

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I noticed your comment on Aleksandra Selakovich's talk page. Describing someone as a notorious liar is likely to be construed as a personal attack. Since you describe yourself as an "ambassador of Serbian Wikipedia on English Wikipedia", I'm sure this is not an impression you actually wish to give. Please consider amending your comments, especially the section heading: you could even phrase it as a question to the user, asking her where the department mentioned actually is. It might simply be an error in translation. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 09:52, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Obradovic, thanks for your support on my RFA. I very much appreciate it. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to ask. See you around! —thames 18:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

from User:Macedonian

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First time I hear that Bitola was mostly populated with Albanians. It seems even funny. My origin (from my father's side) is from Bitola. Ririculous claims... Thanks guys... Macedonian 21:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Why not add Croatian and Bosnian languages among those spoken by thee? HolyRomanEmperor 19:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) But I still think that you should state Bosnian and Croatian. wiki:Babel states that your language knowlegde can variate from native to those you should know, but don't. HolyRomanEmperor 21:36, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Zar stvarno misliš, da ako govoriš srpski jezik, ne razumiješ hrvatski i bosanski? (in which of the three languages I wrote just now?) HolyRomanEmperor 21:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know that my curiosity mihght seem a bit aggressive, but I meant nothing bad; only your opinion on the matter (and I am all ears) HolyRomanEmperor 09:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. I need to ask you something. What is your knowlegde on the Medieval History of our peoples in here (Rascia, Doclea, Travunia, Zachlumia, Pagania, Bosnia, Dalmatia, Croatia, Pannonia, Slavonia, ...)?

OK, thanks anyway. Tell, do you plan on returning to Bosnia? HolyRomanEmperor 16:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Zemun. I am from Karlovac; peasants from my mother's side; large landowners, traders and low (Military Frontier status) noblemen from Lika and the City of Karl. HolyRomanEmperor 15:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting posts

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Hi OG, I've left a note for the anon on his talk page. Let me know if he does it again. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 22:06, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I heard that you're translating? Could you (when you have free time) deal with the Pagania article? Here, for the source: [2] HolyRomanEmperor 17:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Izvini, ali sam nešto bolestan (neke bakterije), pa neću moći da dođem (jedno vrijeme). HolyRomanEmperor 17:58, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jovan Cvijic.png

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Thanks for uploading Image:Jovan Cvijic.png. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Yep, for sure. If you've got the source information then include that and use {{fairusein|Jovan Cvijić}} with that image. Good find! Agnte 21:42, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
If you assert that he painted it, and you know that to be true, then its up to someone else to prove you wrong, so that information is fine to my knowledge :) Agnte 21:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Will you have time for it? HolyRomanEmperor 19:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Za Neretljane... Ono gore-pomenuto. HolyRomanEmperor 10:51, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Za Neretljane... Ono gore-pomenuto. HolyRomanEmperor 10:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this: [3] and put your vote if you can. Thanks in advance. HolyRomanEmperor 12:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pih, I need to ask you for another favour: History of Bosnia; vandal User:Emir_Arven has (unexplainingly) deleted my edits. Please revert the vandal's change to my last ([4]) I cannot, it would be 3RR violation. The vandal just said "yes" and deleted important info. HolyRomanEmperor 17:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zastava-cukarica.gif has been listed for deletion

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sorry

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Hi, someone on the reference desk told me I could ask you something, I hope it doesn't bother you. what does this mean?

smješten na dodiru južne Bukovice i Ravnih Kotara, u sjevernoj Dalmaciji, dio Zadarske županije. Zbog svog zemljopisnog položaja; ini važno prometno sjecište cestovnih pravaca Zadar - Knin, Biograd - Obrovac, Novigrad - Šibenik, te željezni; kog pravca Zadar - Knin. Od gospodarskih grana razvijena je poljoprivreda (sto;arstvo, ratarstvo, vo; arstvo i vinogradarstvo), prerada grož; a, eksploatacija plo;astog kamena, obu; arska i metalna industrija.

thank you. :D

Ok, here goes translation:
It is positioned on the meeting point of the southern Bukovica and Ravni Kotari, in northen Dalmatia, part of Zadar zupanija (zupanija = administrative entity of Croatia). Because of its geographical position; it (?) important trafic juncture of road routes Zadar - Knin, Biograd - Obrovac, Novigrad - Sibenik, then railway; which direction Zadar - Knin. Of economic branches developed are agriculture (cattle, husbandry, orchardry and vineyards), grape processing, stone exploatation, shoemaking industry and metal industry.

It is clear that this section of the text describes some village or town.

Note that text isn't in Serbian, but in Croatian, so I had problem with understanding some parts (hence question mark).

Hope this worked for you. -- Obradović Goran (talk 00:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


THANX A LOT!!! :D u have no idea how much this helped! by the way, I'm a 20 year old peruvian. thanx again :)

Don't be so unconfident in your language skills. In the text č is for some arcane reason (I have a few theories) transferred to ; so the word is "čini" and should be translated, of course, as "is". Nikola 08:25, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Belgrade municipality flags

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Hey :) -- Yes, copyright status is one of the reasons for being nominated on IfD, but they are mainly there because they are not used on the en-Wiki. And im spring cleaning 30k images here on en-Wiki. --Romeo Bravo 01:19, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of Arms are usualy PD, but its questionable. Also, I'm not sure if you are the creator, but they seem a bit, child-like in their drawings, or a Microsoft Paint job. (no offence ment if you created them). Flags and Coat of Arms last time I checked can be uploaded to the commons, which would allow useage over all wikis not just en, so might be another idea when they are needed next time. --Romeo Bravo 01:39, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Admin, laughs uh huh... havent tried tho. And good, I didnt think you drew them ;)

--Romeo Bravo 01:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Though if you want to nominate me, I wouldnt object :p Romeo Bravo 02:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Im not sure, though a question at Village Pump might be appropriate... when i get a transfer from pl or he to en, i usualy tag it {{GFDL-presumed}} --Romeo Bravo 02:05, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Translation Help

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Hi, I'm having a really hard time translating this article from Serbian Wikipedia [5]. The article on here is really needing more information and that seems to the most nicely outlined source. I would greatly appreciate if you could do a quick run-through translation of the article for me and put it on Milhajlo Petrovic-Alas. Even if it is the worst translation you can do - no problem - I will fix up the English to my best ability. Thank you so much. Antidote 21:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have an old book (relatively old anyway) called Mathematics: A History of the Contributors (thats a rough translation - it's in German). There was a small section on Alas and it somewhat biased me to believe he is highly unsung. However there aren't many English sources on him online. I remember coming across a very extensive biography excerpt from a Serbian book called "Eleven Serbian Scientists" or something like that. Maybe you've heard of it? I may be remembering wrong. Antidote 21:47, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you so much for your excellent work on Petrovic-Alas! Antidote 03:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The image might be fairurse under the ((art)) tag - which allows for images made after 1923. Not sure when it was painted, but if the other one is more famous then we should use that one anyway. Antidote 03:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I just read your comment about the biography. Though I am a foreign reader (foreign to Serbia), I find the information on the person Petrovic more fulfilling than information on his mathematical achievements, however, I certainly do agree that there should be a section detailing his contributions. I have tried to find some information on this but there are very few free online sources that aren't in Serbian. I can only minimally read Serbian, and thus can only make very poor translations. Being a resident of Belgrade (I'm assuming), your English is unbelievably good. Maybe it's just the Americans/Australians/Canadians who don't know anything but their own native English. Anyway, I have written a biography on another Serbian mathematician, Jovan Karamata, and I am also severely lacking information detailing his contributions. Whenever I get some major free time, I'll try to look up both. Antidote 20:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Thanks Obradovic Goran
Thanks for your recent support on my RfA. It passed with a final vote of 24/1/2 :-). If you ever need anything, feel free to leave me a message! --Admrboltz (T | C) 04:28, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no source information on serbian wiki either... --Admrboltz (T | C) 17:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Please, I would like to know the licence of file [6] to add it to copy [7], we had a a problems with it on cs. wiki. Answer me to my disscussion or User talk:Aktron --Aktron 14:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion regarding category

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Hello. There is a discussion going on regarding a category you belong to, Amateur Radio Operator. It involves naming and categorization for this and some related categories. Your inputs would be valued. Thank you. --StuffOfInterest 01:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We need your help regarding Amateur Radio

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As StuffOfInterest said, please come by Category_talk:Amateur_Radio_Operator where we are discussing how to organize the identification of Amateur Radio Operators written about in and who are users on Wikipedia. Steve Kd4ttc 03:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Haradinaj.jpg listed for deletion

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Okay but it still doesn't contain source info. It says it came from the Serbian Wikipedia but there's no licensing info there either. See below... —Wknight94 (talk) 12:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Arso Jovanović

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Hi, I came across your article on General Jovanović while doing some routine spelling fix-ups. I have tagged it for copy-editting, as I believe it would benefit from some rewording by a native English speaker.

I would be happy to do this over the next few weeks, but I need someone with knowledge of the subject to check that the subject is left unchanged. Do you know of any English language reference material which I could look at around this subject? Dunstan 16:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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bs.vikipedija

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Išao sam na bs. vikipediju, pisao članke o tim stvarima, bio napadnut i dobio te izjave od njihovih el-mudžahepedijanaca.--TheFEARgod 13:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mehmed Pasa Sokullu

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Gorane, bojim se da će mi trebati vasa pomoć na jednom clanku Mehmed Pasha Sokolović. Vi ste iz Bosne, pa biste mogli to razjasnit. --HolyRomanEmperor 16:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might also find Bosnian Serbs if you'd like to edit whenever you want. --HolyRomanEmperor 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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False Friends of the Slavist

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Please have a look at wikibooks:False Friends of the Slavist. With your language skills, you can help us very much there, though there is not too much to be done. See also wikibooks:Talk:False Friends of the Slavist for details on what is still needed. Thanks in advance! --Daniel Bunčić 18:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Article Improvement Belgrade

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You may wish to vote for Belgrade at the Article Improvement Drive page, here. --estavisti 21:57, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation

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Hello! I invite you to join the WikiProject Serbia. All the best, --serbiana - talk 02:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:General pukovnik Arso Jovanovic 2.jpg

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ss waffen

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lol samo da se ti se javim

Ako mozes pogledaj clanak o Dobrici Cosicu ovde na engleskm i reci sta mislisDzoni 04:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

COTW Project

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You voted for Lipovans, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -Scottwiki 04:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Belgrade is the Current AID Article

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Some Help Needed

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I see you natively speak Serbian and I'm wondering if you could do a word by word translation of the Uros Predic article from the Serbian Wikipedia into English. Here's the linke sr:Урош Предић. It doesn't have to be perfect English - just a rought translation I can use to organize into an article. I'll handle the grammar and spelling. :D Thank you so much. Antidote 19:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much :). I'll return the favor whenever you need it. Antidote 12:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Regarding your comment on Meta

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I do not think the language is uncommon or insignificant. I just believe that we should focus on the development of the English, German, Chinese, etc. Wikiversities before we start a Serbian language one. --Gray Porpoise 00:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please, do not take my vote too harshly. Your opinion matters, too. --Gray Porpoise 16:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"But I am afraid that, initially, its viability is limited to the three languages (English, German and French) which have largest Wikipedias." -Hégésippe (under voting for German Wikiversity)
I support the creation of Serbian Wikiversity, just not the immediate creation. As I said two messages ago, I am not denying the language's importance. --Gray Porpoise 17:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Church in Rudolfsgnad

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Hi! I had a break, but I'm here now. The Catholic church in Rudolfsgnad was hit by aerial bomb from German airplane unintentionally, and it was leveled in 1948. Luftburger 21:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Anon. message from user page

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cao, jel moze da se nabavi vektroski grb zemuna, hitno.....matijagligo@yahoo.com

(originally posted by anonymous user on my user page, moved here by me -- Obradović Goran (talk 02:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Ја га немам, нити га могу набавити. -- Obradović Goran (talk 02:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CRNA RUKA

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Ciao, jel mozes da me kontaktiras na email "sensei [at] crsx.org" imam jedno pitanje u vezi sa poreklom slike koju si zakacio uz stranicu o Crnoj Ruci —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sensei-CRS (talk • contribs) 12:20, 20 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Tomislav Nikolić

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Thanks for fixing my spelling error on Tomislav Nikolić. Perspicacite 01:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Visoki napon

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Thanks for the helpful comments on the matter. Very much appreciated =). Lankiveil (speak to me) 00:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Dragan Radulović

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Hi! I see you helped out on a recent AfD and I'm asking if you can have a look at this article. It appears from the number sources (linked on Talk:Dragan Radulović that he's notable, but I can't read them to judge. I'm not asking you to work on this article but rather to see if you have any information on the person as to whether he's notable or who I could ask for help on this. I already posted it to WP:CLEANUP but I'm not sure we'll find eds there. Thanks! Travellingcari (talk) 21:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your help and information -- it pointed me in the right direction. Have a nice day! Travellingcari (talk) 04:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Wikiproject

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Hi Obradovic Goran,

According to your userpage you are an Orienteer.. Please note that we now have WikiProject Orienteering. It would be great if you could join this new Wikiproject and help it expand.

Thanks, Anonymous101 (talk) 05:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hi

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i like your user page image! you may also want to look at Peters projection which illustrates similar bias present in other maps towards northern hemisphere. 216.80.119.92 (talk) 21:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Goran, you are invited!

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Wiki Loves Science

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Hi Goran,

I would be really happy if we could join forces for future "Wiki Loves Science" activities, and possibly a medical version thereof. With a smile, -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 23:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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